Sunday, April 13, 2008

Clearing it out

I realised just some time back that i wasn't sure what i believed in.My views about various things were all not clear. When people asked me what i thought about that particular topic i wasn't sure i knew though i acted like i did.
One of the views about which my mind was in conflict was about destiny. I thought i believed in destiny all time along when poeple asked me about it. Actually all the way long i didn't believe in it.I just agreed that i believed in it because most of the time people around me believed in it and i didn't want to be the odd one out. It's time i stand up for myself.
The dictionary says destiny means fate which means a supposed power predetermining events. I believe in god so he has already predetermined things that will happen. So whatever you finally end up doing is what would have happened even if you had something to do about it.If one was supposed to sit quiet and do nothing that's his destiny and if someone was to do something that's his destiny.There's nothing like changing one's destiny.whatever is supposed to happen will happen no matter what.If one says he had a part in saving somebody's life or he made in change in the other person's destiny he only did what was supposed to happen. He had no role in the course of events. He was just instrumental in helping realise an event already predetermined by the ultimate power.
After writing this much i realised more than i not believing in destiny i don't believe in the idea of changing one's destiny.
Correct me if my views contradict..

8 comments:

Hari Vishnu said...

no they dont contradict..

the only thing is, then there would be no point in talking about such a destiny, for no one know it at all.. if someone knew what was about to happen, doesnt he have the power to change it?..

not even the stars or palmistry offers 100% written out future (know what, palmistry conveniently excuses itself by saying that even if the lines on ur say something now, the lines can change and hence theyre not ur destiny at all!)

The Third Twin said...

The process of change is very difficult to understand at times... we all should understand and accept that things change and opinions change too.. you were not the same nithin u were 4 years before...everything is bound to change..life is so uncertain..only thing we have control over is our feelings..and based on our feelings we act in life..if someone knew what they were going to do next then i feel there is no point in living, the suspense of life only drives us to try to know wat happens nxt..life is like reading a book.. u have to start from the first page, if u want u can go back and refer previous pages but u cant change the course of things, what has happened has happened..similarily u can go to the future and read but u wont understand a thing, it will be bizzare, u have to go one day at a time(one page in case of a book..in fact one word at a time).. and wat matters at the end of the day is whether u have changed destiny or not but that u have to live the life the way u want and can say proudly that i listened to my heart and lead my life.and destiny is like a plant, based on the direction of the light it changes its shape and move towards it, thats how we too are, we dunno whats gonna happen but we all are in search of that light that will enlighten us in the end..so till then we need to live on..and how to live on is decided by you and your feelings and thereby your actions, which are bound to change like the tree which changes its shape in search of the source of light!

nautillus said...

RE hari and third twin:
let me get it clear.so u guys too don't believe in something called destiny.write it flat and clear..

Anonymous said...

"The dictionary says destiny means fate which means a supposed power predetermining events. I believe in god so he has already predetermined things that will happen."
Doesn't this mean you believe in destiny?
By the very definition of destiny, you can't change it.
Whether God or not God, being a man of science i think things can happen in only way; but nevertheless i know that if we all start thinking that way, then life loses its taste; so we move to a higher level(abstraction) of thinking (as in high level language - C++, low level language - Assembly) and in this level we should (personal opinion) think we can make the world a better place (though in the lower/raw level of thinking, we know that things can happen in only one way).
So do i believe in destiny?
NO (in the higher platform)
YES (and there is no GOD, in the lower one)

Anonymous said...

typo in the comment:
Whether God or not God, being a man of science i think things can happen in only one way

Hari Vishnu said...

@nithin

i believe in one final destiny, but i believe that 'destiny' is something inaccessible to us, and hence wats the point in it ? if it was accessible to us, it wud no longer be destiny, for we would change it. Its like, parallel universes exist, but if they dont affect us in any way, wats the point of them existing?

@arun : science does not say everything has to happen in only one way (superdeterminism was a washed out theory the day heisenberg's uncertainty was made). recent theories suggest they happen in more than one ways, in fact they happen in all ways. no point discussing nonsense quantum mechanics i guess :-)..

nautillus said...

@Hari
the more u guys are responding the more i am thinking about it.and it is going crazy.how's this??if u know what ur destiny is and u change it then that is ur destiny which u didn't know before then it kind of becomes a loop because u know what your destiny is and u change it and then u know it again and u change it again and it goes on.so let's just leave our destiny to whatever it is.just like u i too believe in the final destiny now and if someone asks me about destiny i will just direct them to my blog and let them decide.whatcha say??

Anonymous said...

@hari: either i got the wrong words or u misunderstood wat i tried to intend; heisenberg's uncertainty is only about determining the path things take (in a blown up version); wat i tried to speak of was "Materialism"; things take a path to get to a state (at time t), which depends and only depends on the state of things at time t-dt; "things" here refers to all matter (includes energy) as one